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Poster: kochman Date: Oct 23, 2008 10:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mind left Body controversary

Oh, you win... wait, you mistated my position (something that never happens here).

Here is what I am saying:
*I am not denying that PERRO was a huge influence for this song
*I am not saying the Dead clearly stole the song, and it is exactly the same

I am saying, their are clear similarities, and since Jerry worked together with these guys a lot, a relationship, influence, whatever, is not impossible. Here is what I think probably happened...
Jerry influenced JA people with his music, and they created music together... the "Your Mind Has Left Your Body" seems to be an by-product as interpreted by Katner, and the MLB Jam is an by-product as interpreted by the GD...

That's all, no major revelations, just some inferences that are pretty reasonable... Again, if there were no similarities, it wouldn't have ever been named by anyone... Mind Left Body Jam... Not saying Dick, or whomever, cleared that name. Katner named his interpretation... someone probably just took that name and applied it, but they are clearly similar.

The portion of the Your Mind Has Left Your Body that seems similar to me, the jam before the final verse (if I remember correctly).

This post was modified by kochman on 2008-10-23 17:44:44

This post was modified by kochman on 2008-10-23 17:45:23

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 23, 2008 2:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mind left Body controversary

I might have over simplified your point but I don't think I misstated it. We just have a difference of opinion because I don't hear that many similarities. Not like the theme from First there is a Mountain ( for example )where it is undoubtedly the same. Ultimately it's not that big a deal because like spaced pointed out it is better than "the jam that repeats every once in awhile #1"

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Poster: spacedface Date: Oct 23, 2008 2:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mind left Body controversary

I missed the time with albums coming out often. It must have been fun to see some of the jams become songs and other remains jams.

I like that the heads know all these details. Over in Allman land they don't seem to acknowledge that the Dead jammed the Moutain jam 1st.

Myself I have a hard time keeping all the musical segments straight, and can't quite grasp the history of Dark Star, or even understand why The Other One became a little stub of itself.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 23, 2008 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mind left Body controversary

I can never keep these "jam names" straight anyhow...

Do REALLY like that album (Baron...).

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Oct 24, 2008 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mind left Body controversary

How about Red Raspberry Jam or Strawberry Jam?

Those are my two favorites

;)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Oct 24, 2008 1:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mind left Body controversary

I'll take a smokin' Door Jam anyday.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 24, 2008 2:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mind left Body controversary

That's really more of a bar-b-que sauce in my mind. Especially when you factor in all the hair and dust mites that always accumulate in that "jam"...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Oct 24, 2008 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mind left Body controversary

Pearl ain't half bad.....